trouble: tiny empty square with "Ticky box?", flashing to a checkmark with "Tickybox!" (Ticky!)trouble ([personal profile] trouble) wrote,
@ 2010-06-10 02:47 pm UTC
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Current location:the coffee shop that used to be a tea shop
Current mood: annoyed
Entry tags:disability: disabled people don't exist, halifax isn't accessible, ticky boxes are love
So, a coffee shop moved in to my beloved tea shop. I miss my tea shop, deeply, but I also like having a place to drink hot drinks that's air conditioned and has tables and stuff, and thus, here I am.

And I got used to being around people who though "Accessibility matters!". I'm really missing that especially right now.

Noting that I've already asked people to stop putting the table out front so it blocks the only way for a wheelchair to get into this building (both this store and the one next door) twice, and both times people have said "Oh, yeah, that's important" and then not moved it until I've said "Look, my husband will be here soon, and he'd like to get in your shop, kk?", I ask this question:


Poll #3406 Wheelchair Accessibility: Is it optional?
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 60


How many times will I need to ask the coffee shop to stop putting a table in front of the accessible entrance?

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3
1 (1.7%)

4
1 (1.7%)

5
2 (3.3%)

6-10
1 (1.7%)

11-15
7 (11.7%)

You will stop going before they stop doing that
48 (80.0%)



*sigh*


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jesse_the_k: Well nourished white woman riding black Quantum 4400 powerchair off the right edge, chased by the word "powertool" (JK powertool)


[personal profile] jesse_the_k
2010-06-11 03:50 am UTC (link)
I think a midnight stencil run would be helpful. We turn away disabled customers with a hot-pink spray paint on the sidewalk just outside.

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[personal profile] lauredhel
2010-06-11 05:16 am UTC (link)
There were stickers with a disability logo on them and "INACCESSIBLE? UNACCEPTABLE!" in large letters, designed for slapping on places that weren't ok. Saves needing the spray paint.

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[personal profile] trouble
2010-06-11 06:18 pm UTC (link)
I want a whole pack of them for my campus.

People get really tetchy with me when I bring it up, though.

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trouble: Sketch of Hermoine from Harry Potter with "Bookworms will rule the world (after we finish the background reading)" on it (Bookworms)


[personal profile] trouble
2010-06-11 06:19 pm UTC (link)
TSK! Inciting people to public mischief!

....

It would be wrong to do that, right?

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[personal profile] staranise
2010-06-11 06:30 pm UTC (link)
What about sidewalk chalk? A bitch to clean, but still effective.

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[personal profile] trouble
2010-06-11 06:36 pm UTC (link)
I'd run out of chalk in a week.

....

This is not actually making me think it's a bad idea.

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[personal profile] willow
2010-06-11 06:52 pm UTC (link)
Is there day-glo chalk? Because then even at night there'd be some indication of something going on.

The disability version of hobo signs.

Unfriendly. Not a good place to patronize. Not good for wheelchairs. Acoustically problematic.

Hmm, what other types of signs and indicators could there be?

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[personal profile] trouble
2010-06-11 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Don's talked about the coffee shop being acoustically a nightmare for him. Neither of us can figure out why because it wasn't so when it was a tea shop.

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[personal profile] willow
2010-06-11 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Considering the tea-shop was all about accessibility and comfort for customers - that- might actually be the difference. Many places (especially franchises, though you've said it's not one) actually design their interiors to be subtly unfriendly to customers.

A single individual with a laptop doing work; will drink lots of coffee for oral satisfaction & because 'they're working'. A pair or more of people have each other for company, which might encourage lots of lounging, but not lots of purchasing. They might even buy one item and share it between them.

So they design the place to LOOK just inviting enough, but not be comfortable for long term sitting or conversation so people naturally decide to move on somewhere else.

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[personal profile] scruloose
2010-06-14 02:17 am UTC (link)
...and entirely coincidentally, I just came across this YouTube video of a prank by Improv Everywhere which showcases not only a clever stencil-in-the-bottom-of-a-cardboard-box design (prevents getting overspray all over your shoes), but also spray chalk! Who knew?

Of course, I wouldn't want to be accused of inciting anybody to public mischief or anything. What you do with this knowledge is entirely up to you.

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[personal profile] trouble
2010-06-14 02:20 am UTC (link)
SPRAY CHALK!

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